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Johnny Chua

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Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR & ACD MAX
« on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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My company is currently working on replacing Nortel CCR & ACD MAX with Genesys solution. I have a concern as all this while we are running on a total Nortel Solution: Opt 81C, Mlink,CCR & ACD MAX. Can Genesys really replace the entire function of CCR & MAX?
Also since Nortel Switch is no longer doing the routing, will GEnesys be smart enough to direct all calls to defaults Q when there is a system faults.
Hope I can get some feedback or someone to share their experience/ problem with me.

anonymous

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Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • I could tell you some tales.

    anonymous

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #2 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • I could tell you some tales.

    Dave

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #3 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • When I worked for a newspaper in California, I had a Nortel Meridian 1 running Genesys for inbound and outbound, including using router to deliver all voice calls. So yes, Genesys can replace CCR and MAX.

    As for default routing, the way this works is that if Genesys fails to return a route response within the timeout set on the CDN for external routing, the switch default routes to the DFDN set on the CDN (usually a specific queue).

    As for the response above, that's not the most helpful answer to the question. If you have specific examples of things that didn't work, by all means feel free to share them. From what I understand, at least a quarter of the installations with Genesys are on Nortel switches.

    Johnny Chua

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #4 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • I would like to hear about those tales. You could drop your message to my personnal email chuawm@m1.com.sg if it meant to be confidential. Thanks

    Johnny Chua

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #5 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • At the meantime, Genesys seems to be having difficulties in hooking on to Mlink. The connection is unstable. Also as we are not using the Genesys VTO. Genesys has to implement a work around solution to control & monitor our MOH/ RAN & IVRS.
    Lastly, as we are using Aspect eWFM. Genesys claim that they are unable to integrate to the latest software release from Aspect.

    Vic

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #6 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • Johnny,

    from what I have seen so far, you will be able to replace CCR with ERS and have all the functionality of CCR plus some more. Yes, ERS offers a lot of really great features, allows for a more meaningful strategy definition than a CCR script, routing can be done on a myriad of different targets and not just DN or agent skill, you will also have an access to what I really like "Virtual Queue", which would allow you to place calls on in different queues for reporting purposes, even though in real life calls are still on the same CDN... The list goes on and on...

    But, as you know, with everything that sounds too good to be true, you are not hearing the full story.
    The very first problem you will run into is that calls will no longer be delivered to an ACD position, but an extension instead. To make matters worse, this happens ONLY if this call was routed by URS. So, depending on a configuration of your call center, you will actually have calls come on both ACD position AND extension... This happens when a call is dropped to default by URS, but still, you will have your ears full of customers complaining.

    Another problem is that you will REALLY need somebody who knows G6.1 very well, unless you are planning on just doing a really simple routing. And even in that case, you will probably need to get used to testing and testing and testing long into the night, just to get verything right.

    The biggest complaint with CCP is that it is not MAX. If a customer have never seen MAX before, he will love CCP. If they have used MAX before, they will complain that it does not look like MAX, and that it is not as reliable as MAX.

    Another major problem you will face is that you will not be able to see number of calls in an ACD queue. Believe it or not, link simply does not tell its CTI clients that a call is queued in an ACD until call actually ARRIVED to a phone! :) So you will need a third party application to monitor them there are a lot of them, and they are pretty simple, so in a worst case scenario, you can easily develop it by yourself: all you need is Genesys Active X componeny.You can avoid this problem by doing all the queueing in virtual queue, but still, you will be damned to know how many calls were dropped to a default ACD queue.

    Implementing Genesys with skillased routing usually decreases your average time in queue by about 13 percent. Genesys claims it to be around 30, but you really need a screwed up environment to start with in order to get this figure. :)

    If you are a big call center, and have the money, people and the will power, I would say, go for it. If not, make sure what you are getting into, because otherwise, you will be perpetuall stuck with putting out all those local fires caused simply by not knowing better. :)

    MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SOMEONE WITH G6.1 certification before you start. Otherwise, you will always depend on outside help for any modofication and support. If you have G6.1 you can do some of the work yourself, and still be fully supported by Genesys and your VAR.

    Did I answer your question?
    Vic

    Vic

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #7 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • Is it WorkFlowManager or WorkForceManager?

    Johnny Chua

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
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  • Hi Vic,
    Yup, you sure did. Thanks.
    We are using Aspect eWFM "Work Force Management' software.

    Philip

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #9 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • Genesys sales people will try hard to sell Workforce Manager by stating that Genesys is not compatible with Aspect EWFM. There's no standard integration today (API or Adaptor) but all they need to do is to send the TCS Report on the LAN every 15 or 30 minutes. Aspect or Genesys should be able to provide infos as to how to configure the report. If you're already using RealTime Adherence, that's another problem...

    Vic

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #10 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • Send report every 15 to 30 minutes?
    Can you please explain? If you could email me directly, it would be really great! Can you pair eWFM with Genesys? How?
    Vic

    Johnny Chua

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    Can Genesys really replace Nortel CCR
    « Reply #11 on: January 01, 1970, 12:00:00 AM »
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  • Hi
    In fact we are already using the Real Time Adherence Module (RTA). Previously while using Nortel ACD MAX, what I do is to program MTE to auto print the Report Format required by TCS to the subfolder of TCS Server at an interval of 10mins.Nortel MAX is also able to integrate with RTA Server as they had the API really (Meridian External Interface, MEI). The MEI is also been used to integrate with NIce Voice Logger.
    But with Genesys, everything seems to be unready for Aspect product... there are lots of issues & customise programming required. This is like a product not "Out of the Shelf" or "Open".