What's the sense of the default port for the URS?

[Wörsty]

I would like to know, what's the function of the default port managed in CME?

[S]

Are you asking about default destination in the URS options configured in CME? if not, what is it you are asking?

[Wörsty]

The default port managed in the Application Object Server Info Tab in Ports List...

[cavagnaro]

Wörsty! Cool to see you around here

I believe you mean the port of each application right? Is it used so that application will listen on that port any other requests from other applications, for example port 2020 for confguration server so it will listen to that port for the respective users authentications.

[Wörsty]

Ok. That was my understanding too.
I told this a colleague but he said, he blocked the Port but the URS was still working.
I can't undertand this. It the URS port used for the connection establishment only?
Never trust an info except it's your own?

[code]netstat -ao
Active Connections
  Proto  Local Address          Foreign Address        State           PID
  TCP    urs0:2100              urs0.Freenet-AG.de:0   LISTENING       6092[/code]
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[René]

Wörsty,

What do you mean by "he blocked the port"? I would say that any changes to application's port requires restart of the application. If he just blocked the port on a firewall after URS was running and clients were connected then existing connections could still work - depends on your firewall settings.

R.

[tony]

As I understand this, your networks guy has blocked the TCP/IP Port?  If you really want to foul things up, you should close off the UDP Port, too...

But why would you want to do that? 

Tony

[quote author=Wörsty link=topic=2996.msg12090#msg12090 date=1211443331]
Ok. That was my understanding too.
I told this a colleague but he said, he blocked the Port but the URS was still working.
I can't undertand this. It the URS port used for the connection establishment only?
Never trust an info except it's your own?

[code]netstat -ao
Active Connections
  Proto  Local Address          Foreign Address        State           PID
  TCP    urs0:2100              urs0.Freenet-AG.de:0   LISTENING       6092[/code]
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[cavagnaro]

Don't understand also why you would like to block URS port...
If you want to block some network to connect to IRD to develop applications you need to block:
ConfigServer
ConfigSeverDB
If you configured a DBServer for storage strategies that port as well


What IRD does actually is pull the strategies from CFG DB from the folder scripts where are the strategies saved and pointed to a local file on a PC or a table on a DB.

Also if some connection was already on URS port when your Network guy blocked the port the Firewall will not cut this connection, you need to restart URS so it drops connections and then Firewall can block them...

But again, why blocking URS port?

[kubikle]

As far as I know URS although equiped with port (as normally any server in CME) don't use it in 6.x-7.x Genesys releases. The last client that connects to router through this port was 5.x Strategy Loader.

[Wörsty]

[quote author=kubikle link=topic=2996.msg12123#msg12123 date=1211519484]
As far as I know URS although equiped with port (as normally any server in CME) don't use it in 6.x-7.x Genesys releases. The last client that connects to router through this port was 5.x Strategy Loader.
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Which port is used instead to communicate with an Interaction Server for example?

PS: This was just for a test, cav/Tony

[tony]

It seemed strange to be asking what would happen if you closed a specific Port... unless your services are firewalled or you have a DMZ...

I still don't get it...

Ah well - never mind! 

Tony

[Wörsty]

Not me - my colleague
I don't get it too

[thicke]

The original question was general and not URS specific, so let's get back to it. 

Anything that connects to an application uses that port to connect to it. 

So for example, URS has a connection to TServer in it's connection tab.  URS will connect as a client to TServer on the port that is listed on TServer's server info tab the default port.

Blocking a port will prevent this traffic from being passed on the network.

Now, getting back to the URS issue.  Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything that connects as a client to URS.  So blocking the port listed as URS may have no effect at all.

Blocking say TServer's default port would cause major problems though since many applications connect to TServer as a client.

Now that all being said, the question is where is the port being blocked? Is it being blocked at a local network level?  Is it just being blocked at WAN connections?  Is the port just being blocked at the internet connection?

[thicke]

[quote author=Tony Tillyer link=topic=2996.msg12094#msg12094 date=1211448006]
As I understand this, your networks guy has blocked the TCP/IP Port?  If you really want to foul things up, you should close off the UDP Port, too...
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I think what you're describing is more filtering than port blocking. If a port is "blocked", that usually means that no traffic can pass.  It doesn't matter if it's UDP traffic or TCP traffic.  The port can also be filtered to not allow one type of traffic or another.

[cavagnaro]

[quote author=Wörsty link=topic=2996.msg12124#msg12124 date=1211526722]
PS: This was just for a test, cav/Tony
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are you testing our knowledge on Genesys you OXE master? hahahaha